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The Fighters VS echipa spree

ARBITRU: Liviu Herman

Discurs 1 Afirmatori

”Pentru protectia minorilor, anumite site-uri de internet ar trebui cenzurate”. Ca urmare a progresului tehnologic, internetul a devenit un mod eficient de comunicare si de aflare a informatiilor; cu toate acestea, anumite site-uri pot fi nocive pentru dezvoltarea psihica a minorilor si ii pot pune chiar in pericol fizic, de aceea unele dintre ele ar trebui cenzurate. Pentru a putea dezbate aceast? chestiune, in cele ce urmeaza vom clarifica conceptul de cenzura. Cenzura reprezinta un control prealabil exercitat asupra continutului anumitor canale de difuzare a informatiilor cum ar fi publica?iile, emisiunile, mediul online. In scopul prezentei motiuni, putem considera forma de cenzura ce trebuie aplicata in cazul internetului ca una tehnologica de filtrare a unui anumit tip de continut. Astfel, pentru a nu incalca dreptul constitutional la libera exprimare, caracteristic majoritatii statelor, ne vom axa pe o astfel de definitie a cenzurii ?i vom sustine cenzurarea anumitor site-uri daunatoare. Cenzurarea anumitor site-uri se practica in unele tari in scopuri politico-ideologice, pentru ca solicitarea de informatie sa nu pericliteze existenta unui anumit regim; in cazul de fata, intr-un stat democrat, cenzura ar fi o masura de securitate, de protectie a minorilor, care dispun de mai putine metode de aparare decat adultii si care nu au resursele necesare pentru a depista potentialele surse ale raului. In primul rand, trebuie controlat accesul la asa-numitele chat rooms, activitati care ii pot transforma pe minori in reale prazi pentru persoanele cu inclinatii pedofile sau pentru cele care ii pot racola pentru traficul de carne vie sau cersetorie. Persoanele periculoase pot parea prietenoase in prima instanta, apoi pot propune minorului o intalnire si, din acel moment acesta poate fi considerat o prada sigura. Emisiunile de stiri au prezentat nenumarate cazuri in care minorii au acceptat invitatia de a se intalni cu diverse persoane cu care au intrat in contact in chat rooms si, fie au disparut, fie au fost abuzati. O propunere pentru prevenirea unor astfel de situatii ar fi instalarea unui software care sa filtreze adresele si continutul emailurilor copiilor, solutii care exista deja pentru anumite sisteme de operare. In al doilea rand, trebuie cenzurat accesul la site-urile cu jocuri in care se desfa?oara activitati violente. Acestea, jucate o perioada indelungata, au un efect negativ dovedit asupra psihicului minorului; de exemplu au existat multe cazuri in care adolescenti au ucis sau au fost ucisi din cauza unui astfel de joc (o simpla cautare pe Google poate demonstra acest argument). Mai mult, aceste jocuri pot crea dependenta. In aceste conditii, ar trebui stabilita o metoda de control dura pentru ca minorii sa nu acceseze astfel de site-uri, daunatoare si neconstructive. In al treilea rand, exista o multitudine de site-uri cu continut erotic explicit, nu numai cele care se ocupa exclusiv cu acest gen de continut, ci ?i site-uri ale unor ziare care gazduiesc astfel de reclame, care pot fi accesate printr-un simplu click. Prin urmare, in conceptia minorului este distorsionata realitatea si acesta va considera ca lucrurile pe care le vede pe acele site-uri constituie o norma sociala si va încerca sa se conformeze, astfel, unui ideal negativ. In concluzie, pentru protectia minorilor, anumite site-uri de internet ar trebui cenzurate.

Resurse 1 Afirmatori

Discurs 1 Negatori

Ca echipa negatoare a motiunii propuse, sustinem faptul ca in vederea protectiei minorilor, cenzurarea anumitor site-uri de Internet nu este necesara. In primul rand, trebuie sa definim cele doua concepte cheie: minor si cenzura. Conform DEX, minorul reprezinta acea persoana care nu a implinit inca varsta la care isi poate exercita toate drepturile. Dar varsta majoratului este una relativa: In SUA 16 ani, in Romania 18 ani, in timp ce in Marea Britanie 21 de ani. Asadar, poate o lege sa reglementeze varsta la care un copil a atins maturitatea fizica si psihica? Nu, o poate doar intui, insa totul difera de la caz la caz, asa cum difera si capacitatea de selectivitate a informatiilor venite din exterior, incluzand Internetul.

In ceea ce priveste cenzura, aceasta nu reprezinta un control doar asupra anumitor canale de informatie, ci si asupra propriei persoane - probabil cea mai importanta dimensiune de luat in discutie aici. Autocenzura vine atat din zestrea genetica a fiecaruia cat si din aportul pe care parintii il au in formarea copilului, prin educatie. In fata pericolelor lumii inconjuratoare si implicit a Internetului, autocontrolul reprezinta cea mai buna modalitate de paza. Asadar educatia, precum si o buna comunicare parinti-copil este mai indicata decat impunerea unor restrictii care cu siguranta nu sunt bine primite de catre minori.

Conform unui studiu realizat de catre Asociatia pentru Tehnologie si Internet legat de activitatile copiilor pe Internet, serviciile folosite cel mai mult sunt cele de tip Instant messenger, e-mail si web, iar dintre site-uri, cele mai accesate sunt cele de muzica, jocuri, hobby-uri dar si informativ-educationale.¹ In ceea ce priveste softurile de mesagerie instanta, folosirea acestora de catre minori este foarte importanta. Ei se afla la varsta la care socializarea are rolul formarii lor ca personalitati, iar aceste programe ii ajuta la dezvoltarea abilitatilor de comunicare. Totusi, aceasta forma de socializare trebuie sa fie folosita ca anexa si nu ca substitut al comunicarii „fata in fata.” Cat despre pedofili, acestia isi desfasoara activitatile mult mai frecvent in mediul real decat in cel internautic. Mai mult, Internetul iti da mai mult timp sa te convingi de credibilitatea unei persoane decat in viata reala, unde nu se discuta prea mult cu victimele. Cenzurarea accesului la Internet nu mai constituie o arma destul de puternica in aceasta lupta. Un copil poate foarte usor sa mearga la un Internet-cafe sau la un prieten, ferindu-se de parinti si periclitand in final comunicarea cu ei.

A doua dimensiune dezbatuta o reprezinta site-urile cu jocuri violente. Din nou, respingem si acest aspect intrucat, in primul rand, jocuri cu continut violent se pot procura intr-o masura mult mai mare din magazinele specializate decat de pe Internet, iar in al doilea rand, deoarece cazurile grave de care s-a pomenit sunt mult mai complexe decat par. Afirmatorii au vorbit despre traume sau probleme psihice care au fost declansate de actiunea din jocuri, insa ar fi putut fi la fel de bine declansate de orice actiune violenta vazuta la televizor sau pe strada. Cat despre dependenta de jocuri, aceasta este una relativa, insa mai putin nociva decat dependenta de alcool, tutun si droguri, care pornesc de la aceeasi varsta si au efecte directe asupra corpului si ratiunii.

In cele din urma, dezbatem site-urile cu continut erotic explicit, care sunt la fel de disponibile copiilor precum sunt revistele cu continut pornografic de la orice chiosc de presa, sau filmele cu cerculet rosu de pe unele posturi tv. In plus, Internetul este folosit de multe ori de catre minori pentru a se informa in legatura cu raporturile sexuale, bolile cu transmitere sexuala² si alte lucruri ce privesc acest subiect.

In concluzie, ca si echipa negatoare, sustinem necenzurarea site-urilor de Internet in favoarea libertatii de alegere si exprimare.

Resurse 1 Negatori

http://www.atitudinea.ro/articole/Reportaj/Sondaj+online:+Utilizarea+Internet-ului+de+catre+minori)

http://www.gecadshop.ro/utile/stiri/supravegherea-accesului-la-internet-al-minorilor.htm, data publicatiei – 09.01.2008

Discurs 2 Afirmatori

Ideea principala negatoare pune la indoiala posibilitatea de a proteja minorii prin limitarea accesului la anumite site-uri; ca echipa afirmatoare sustinem in continuare cenzurarea anumitor site-uri de Internet intrucat le consideram elemente nocive in educatia si dezvoltarea psihologica a minorilor. In ceea ce priveste definitia data de echipa negatoare termenului ‘minor’, precizam ca varsta pana la care o persoana este considerata minor in diferite state nu este relevanta pentru dezbaterea de fata; in termeni juridici, minor este o persoana cu un nivel de discernamant mai scazut decat o persoana majora (cu o mai mare experienta de viata), de aceea minorii nici nu raspund penal pana la o anumita varsta, iar de la acea varsta pana la majorat raspunderea penala este limitata. Astfel, invocam argumentul varstei la care Marea Britanie confera statutul de major si anume 21 de ani, ceea ce ne duce cu gandul ca, in anumite state, abia la aceasta varsta persoanele sunt considerate a avea discernamant deplin. Negatorii declara ca autocontrolul – probabil in sensul de autocenzura- constand in educatie si in buna comunicare cu parintii este cea mai buna metoda de cenzura, dar autocontrolul nu este garantat, iar curiozitatea nativa a fiecaruia il poate conduce la luarea unor decizii gresite. Relativ la comunicarea cu parintii, studiile1 arata ca atunci cand se confrunta cu probleme online, minorii apeleaza la parinti doar in ultima instanta. Conform unui studiu2 realizat de Comisia Europeana, Eurobarometrul, principalele activitati sunt jocurile online, navigarea si comunicarea. Conform aceluiasi studiu, un numar mic de parinti se preocupa intr-adevar de activitatea online a copiiilor lor. In ceea ce priveste pedofilii, exista multe astfel de retele pe internet3 , acesta fiind un mediu optim pentru ei, din moment ce isi pot desfasura activitatea ilegala sub protectia anonimatului si existand o probabilitate mai mica de a fi capturati. Cei care inca isi desfasoara activitatea de racolare ‘in mediul real’, cum spune echipa negatoare, sunt gasiti de fortele de ordine cu usurinta. Diferentierea pe care o face echipa negatoare intre internetul accesat de acasa sau dintr-un internet cafe este irelevanta pentru scopul dezbaterii, pentru ca ambele constituie unul si acelasi internet, care trebuie cenzurat indiferent de locatie. Urmatoarea dimensiune dezbatuta de negatori este reprezentata de site-urile cu jocuri violente. Echipa sustine ca jocurile violente se pot procura de la magazine specializate, ceea ce nu este fals; insa, ideea care se pierde din vedere este costul mare al jocurilor, minorul neavand venituri. In plus, jocurile procurate de pe Internet sau jucate online sunt mult mai ieftine sau chiar gratuite. Mai departe, relativ la crearea unui comportament violent in jucator stau marturie studiile de specialitate. Intr-un studiu publicat de Editura Universitatii Oxford4 este demonstrata ideea ca expunerea la jocuri video violente constituie un factor semnificativ de risc pentru un comportament agresiv si violent. De asemenea, s-a relatat in presa5 despre multe cazuri de omucidere rezultate din imitarea a ceea ce minorul a vazut in acele jocuri. Ca ultim argument, contrar ideii sustinute de echipa adversa ca revistele pornografice sunt la fel de disponibile copiiilor ca si site-urile cu continut erotic, avansam argumentul ca astfel de reviste nu se vand minorior, acest fapt fiind interzis prin lege, pe cand internetul, fiind necenzurat, poate fi folosit in orice scopuri, chiar si pozitive, cum ar fi informarea despre raporturile sexuale - ideea negatorilor- dar aspectele pozitive nu constituie preocupare noastra in aceasta dezbatere. In consecinta, in lumina agumentelor de mai sus, ne mentinem pozitia ca anumite (tipuri de) site-uri de internet (si nu internetul in general) trebuie cenzurate, in scopul protectiei minorilor.

Resurse 2 Afirmatori

1. http://www.youspeak.ro/resurse/RESURSE%20CJI.pdf 2. http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/activities/sip/docs/eurobarometer/analyticalreport_2008.pdf 3. http://www.realitatea.net/700-de-arestari--in-anihilarea-unei-retele-de-pedofilie-pe-internet_69727.html 4. http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/Psychology/Developmental/?view=usa&ci=9780195309836 5.http://www.google.com/search?q=violent+game+teenager+killed++i&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:ro:official&client=firefox-a

Discurs 2 Negatori

Motiunea conform careia anumite site-uri de Internet ar trebui cenzurate, in vederea protectiei minorilor, este in continuare combatuta de echipa negatoare. In primul rand, tinem sa clarificam statutul de persoana minora. Minorii sunt intr-adevar persoane cu un nivel de discernamant mai scazut, comparativ cu adultii. Cu toate acestea, accentuam ideea ca nu putem indica cu exactitate varsta la care o persoana se maturizeaza spiritual si inceteaza sa fie minora. Tocmai din aceasta cauza am subliniat diferenta dintre legile reglementate in diverse state, cu privire la varsta majoratului. Pentru a sustine aceasta idee, reluam exemplul oferit anterior: varsta majoratului este relativa, in functie de stat; aceasta poate oscila, fiind cuprinsa intre 16 si 21 de ani. Echipa afirmatoare vorbea despre legile conform carora revistele cu continut erotic explicit sunt interzise spre a fi vandute minorilor. Cu totii stim ca, in ciuda existentei acestor legi – facute intocmai pentru a proteja minorii – ele nu sunt respectate. Asa cum tigarile se vand si copiilor si adultilor, la fel se intampla si cu revistele pornografice. La urma urmei, este in interesul vanzatorilor sa isi epuizeze stocul. Nu putem spune deci, ca Internetul este singura sursa de procurare, pentru copii, de materiale erotice. In cazul jocurilor video postate pe Internet, argumentam ca acestea nu pot fi descarcate decat contra unei sume de bani. Se mai poate intampla, de asemenea, ca demo-uri/ sample-uri sa fie accesibile persoanelor care utilizeaza Internetul, insa nu putem vorbi despre jocuri video violente care pot fi descarcate si jucate integral. Aceste disfunctii pe care le-a amintit echipa afirmatoare nu pot fi totusi atribuite in totalitate Internetului. O serie numeroasa de factori externi eronat manageriati poate conduce intr-un mod facil la declansarea acestui tip de negativism in educatia minorilor. Mai concret, acesti factori pot fi regasiti in cercul de prieteni pe care un copil il poate frecventa si care are puterea de a-l modela intr-un mod defectuos. Cenzurarea site-urilor de Internet nu reprezinta stoparea acestor elemente nocive – asa cum sustine echipa afirmatoare – deoarece acestea depind de mult mai multi factori . Cu toate ca tehnologia a avansat atat de mult in ziua de astazi, multi tineri nu beneficiaza de Internet, deci nu il putem considera ca fiind un adevar general valabil. Privitor la comunicarea dintre parinti si copii, nu putem lua in considerare numai actiunile si efectele care succed accesul la Internet, ci si cele care il preced. De cele mai multe ori, acesta este conditionat si monitorizat de parinti. Cat despre problema pedofililor, aceasta are implicatii la o scara mult mai larga. Pana si in anunturile de mica publicitate gasim anunturi “mascate” de racolare si prostitutie. Exista organizatii special desemnate pentru verificarea si supravegherea conversatiilor, in spatele carora se pot ascunde persoane cu deviatii pedofilice.1 Sintetizand, Internetul ramane singurul mijloc de informare care iti ofera libertate completa de alegere; astfel, beneficiile oferite de mediul online sunt nenumarate. Consideram de asemenea ca ideile pe care le-am sustinut in primul discurs negator sunt bine argumentate si nu au fost suficient combatute de echipa afirmatoare. In concluzie, ca echipa negatoare, ne mentinem pozitia de a nu cenzura site-urile de Internet.

Resurse 2 Negatori

1. http://www.catavencu.ro/calin_pedofilie_de_poveste-5297.html

Verdict:

ECHIPA CASTIGATOARE: Echipa The Fighters
Feedback:

In opinia mea, dezbaterea a fost castigata de catre echipa afirmatoare. In cele ce urmeaza voi explica aceasta decizie, punand aceent pe urmatoarele elemente: abordarea motiunii de catre cele doua echipe, evaluarea argumentelor principale si o analiza separata a unor elemente cheie din dezbatere.

Echipa afirmatoare isi propune ca principal scop demonstrarea faptului ca anumite elemente specifice mediului online trebuiesc filtrate pentru ca acestea pot avea repercursiuni negative asupra minorilor. Echipa negatoare vrea sa demonstreze pe de o parte ca o masura bazata pe educatie este de dorit uneia coercitive, si pe de alta parte ca elementele nocive identificate de echipa afirmatoare in mediul online se regasesc si in alte componente ale societatii, de multe ori chiar in cotidian.

Primele contradictii se nasc la definirea termenului minor. Aceasta disputa nu este una relevanta pentru motiune, intrucat o asemenea lege care ar putea fi implementata in tari care au diferite varste de trecere spre majorat, va tine cont de specificul fiecarei legislatii nationale.

Disputa cenzura – autocenzura este unul dintre punctele importante in balanta meciului. In acest sens este important sa analizam premisele de la care se porneste aceasta disputa: ambele echipe accepta ca exista elemente negative pe internet, doar ca afirmatorii vor sa le rezolve printr-o masura externa care sa puna o bariera intre minori si acestea, pe cand echipa negatoare propune ca solutie o educare a tinerilor in doua directii: comunicarea cu parintii si dobandirea autocontrolului. Astfel, avem de ales intre o masura sigura, care rezolva problema in momentul de fata si una a carei implementare si eficacitate nu le putem garanta. Asadar, solutia propusa de afirmatori este una necesara pe termen scurt care ar putea fi completata cu ceea ce propun negatorii. Asadar, autocenzura este un element spre care ar trebui sa tindem, dar in momentul de fata cenzura este singurul garant al rezolvarii problemei.

Voi analiza in bloc cele trei argumente dezbatute de cele doua echipe, intrucat atacul echipei negatoare este, la nivel logic, similar in toate cele trei cazuri. Echipa afirmatoare vine cu o serie de amenintari ale mediului online: transformarea minorilor in potentiale victime pentru pedofili sau traficanti de persoane si afectarea psihicului si dezvoltarii minorilor prin expunerea la scene violente sau scene cu continut erotic. Raspunsul care se regaseste in repetate randuri in ambele discursuri ale echipei negatoare este faptul ca aceste amenintari se regasesc si in multe alte aspecte ale existentei minorilor ca apartinatori la anumite grupuri sociale sau la interactiunile cu diferite elemente cotidiene. Echipa negatoare comite in acest moment o eroare de argumentare, intrucat nu pune accent pe negarea amenintarilor din mediul online sau a solutiei propuse de catre echipa afirmatoare in acest sens (cenzura). Ci, echipa negatoare accepta faptul ca exista efecte nocive cauzate de accesarea mediului online de catre minori, dar exista efecte negative care decurg si din alte surse. Este absolut real faptul ca exista o multitudine de elemente care pot avea un efect negativ asupra dezvoltarii minorilor, dar acest lucru nu ne impiedica sa luam o masura pentru a stopa macar o parte din acestea. Exact asta propune echipa afirmatoare prin sustinerea motiunii. E adevarat faptul ca cenzura anumitor site-uri nu stopeaza toate elementele care pot dauna unui minor, dar nici nu isi doreste sa faca acest lucru; aceasta cenzura nu este o solutie universala la toate probleme, ci doar o masura care poate face un pas in plus spre asigurarea unei dezvoltari armonioase a copiilor nostri.

Punctaj: 47

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